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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Last Updated: 23.06.2025 00:55

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

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There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

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Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

If there is an abandoned house with no owner, can I live in it?

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

What are the most outrageous violations of restaurant buffet etiquette have you seen?

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

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Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Have you ever had sex with sisters?

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

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Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

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The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

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ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

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The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

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Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

NOW…

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Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

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Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

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Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

CONCLUSION:

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

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Now here in this verse

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Sain (a barber)

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Kabir (a weaver)

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

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ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

I am like a fish out of water,

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.